Wednesday, September 26, 2007
Heinrich Critical of Congressional Votes Against MoveOn Ad
Unbelieveably, the U.S. House just joined the U.S. Senate in voting to condemn MoveOn's recent Petraeus Betray-Us ad. The margin was:
Democrats: 146 Yea, 79 Nay, 6 Not Voting
Republicans: 195 Yea, 0 Nay, 6 Not Voting
TOTALS: 341 Yea, 79 Nay, 12 Not Voting
Yes, you read that right. I guess the House was tired of seeing the Senate getting all the fruitcake praise on this pseudo-issue, so Rep. Jerry Lewis (R-CA) brought it up on the House side and got it passed. What's worse? Many Dems, including Rep. Tom Udall (NM-03) voted FOR the travesty. Here's the tally.
At the time the vote came down I was talking on the phone with Albuquerque City Councilmember Martin Heinrich, the progressive Democrat running against corrupt rubber stamp Heather Wilson (NM-01). He was very disappointed that the Democratic Leadership even allowed this idiotic voted to come to the floor. Martin's answer was what every Democrat should be saying. "There's a grand diversion for you... It's not something that I'd have been willing to support because it takes us away from the focus of actually making a difference on the ground in Iraq. What we ought to be voting on is a timetable to redeploy our troops."
What can we do to thank Martin Heinrich for speaking out and getting it right on this issue? September 30th is the end of this campaign fundraising quarter. The Heinrich campaign needs good numbers to show that he's the strongest Dem choice to run against Heather Wilson. I urge you to donate a few bucks NOW at the DFNM Netroots for Heinrich page at ActBlue.
Here's a statement released by MoveOn after the House joined the Senate in fiddling while our democracy, Iraq (and maybe now Iran) burns:
“With every passing day, more information comes to light casting more and more doubt on the validity of the facts and conclusions presented by General Petraeus in his testimony before Congress.
With every passing day, more American soldiers and Iraqi civilians lose their lives in this unwinnable civil war. It is unconscionable and outrageous that instead of doing the people's work and ending this war, Congress chooses meaningless and distracting gestures.
With every passing day, America's frustration with politicians in Washington drops the approval ratings for this Congress to new lows. Congress is fiddling with an ad while Iraq burns.
We will continue our ad campaign to accuse the Republicans who are blocking an end to the war of a 'Betrayal of Trust.'”
-- “Petraeus’s numbers differ substantially from the Pentagon’s own numbers – his show progress, and theirs don’t. The Pentagon’s numbers are the official MNF-I numbers, which Petraeus himself called the most reliable possible. Petraeus’ numbers differ, the military says, because he includes reports from Iraqi police – the same police the NIE said are corrupt, riddled with sectarianism, and ought to be disbanded. The actual Iraqi government numbers are nowhere near as positive.” Washington Post, Tuesday, September 25, 2007
-- The NYT reported today that Sunni extremists are targeting Iraqi police and officials. This is a new trend in violence – but according to the methodology MNF-I released last week, none of these murders would have been counted by Petraeus. New York Times, Wednesday, September 26, 2007
This House vote piling on Move On is the last straw for me. I hope the Democrats have a great time trying to win over Republicans while their base stays home. What an insult.
Posted by: I Vote | Sep 26, 2007 4:15:52 PM
I sent the following to Brian Colon and copied Sarha Cobb, Udall's staffer & quite a few others. I am so mad i could spit! I feel absolutely betrayed. It would have been bad enough if it were other Dems, but with Udall joining them it's like finding out your mother is running the whore house you've been trying to shut down!
What in the HELL is going on!?
100% accurate advertisement and gutless wonders let the SLIME-BOAT LYING SONS-O-BITCHES attack the 1st amendment?! WTF?!
UDALL - one of the turncoats!!! Worse than Bingaman's Bankruptcy sell-out!
With leadership demonstrated over the last 8 months it is obvious we will never take back the country.
I am so disheartened I just want to weep for my grandson!
Posted by: PlacitasRoy | Sep 26, 2007 7:26:34 PM
It is very rare where I am ashamed of Tom Udall. But this is one of those times.
Posted by: LP | Sep 26, 2007 9:32:50 PM
As far as I am concerned there is Nothing. Nothing. more disgusting than the attack by the Republicans against (former) Senator Max Cleland, who walked his last steps and left his legs in Vietnam and was attacked as if he was OBL and driven out of office by the slimebag Republicans who wrote THE BOOK on political attacks lower than a snake belly.
Why the Democrats don't get it is beyond me.
Posted by: bg | Sep 26, 2007 9:42:17 PM
I'm happy to see that Martin is critical of the House vote. What we need, though, is immediate and unconditional withdrawal from Iraq. Not a timetable. The Iraqis don't want us there. Imagine the Nazis saying to the Poles, "Hey, sorry we trashed your country, leveled your cities, slaughtered your people - let us help you put it back together again, as long as you do it the way we want, with a government we approve of." This is the feeling of Iraqis towards the US at this point. What arrogance to think we have even a right to stay so that we can "help" them rebuild their shattered nation, where far more Iraqis have died since our illegal invasion than were ever killed under Hussein, ruthless and megalomaniacal as he was. We do, however, have the responsibility to fund the Iraqis in their own reconstruction.
Posted by: Jason Call | Sep 26, 2007 10:14:02 PM
come on, the ad was out of line, and I"m sure the folks at Move on knew it. They should have known they would democrats in this position.
Can anyone explain to me exactly how Gen. Petraeus is "betraying" anyone? I've been just as opposed to the war as anyone, but I just don't see it. The people who have the power to end this thing when the executive will clearly not -- the folks in Congress, but cutting off funding -- just won't do it. And those who do want to do it can't get the votes they need because their majority is not large enough.
Posted by: I vote too. | Sep 27, 2007 11:44:12 AM
I don't really care if anyone thinks the ad was "out of line" or not. That's not the point. The point is that our members of Congress took time away from the important work they are supposed to be concentrating on to vote on what amounts to a trivial matter.
There is a long American tradition of criticizing generals, often quite roughly. This is no different. Free speech, even if we don't agree with what's being said, is the cornerstone of our democracy and makes our nation stronger, not weaker.
However, I do believe Petraeus betrayed a number of things by testifying in an inaccurate manner with plenty of spin. A) He betrayed the truth. B) He betrayed his troops by not honestly reporting what they are up against. B) He betrayed the public by not being honest about how bad it still is over there.
Posted by: Lonnie | Sep 27, 2007 12:57:38 PM
When Petraeus stepped out of the role of military commander and into the role of Bush administration mouthpiece, he opened himself up to whatever criticism is deserving of the Bush administration. He willingly put himself on par with the administration - and since we have been "Betray-us"'ed by Bush since day one, particularly on the matter of Iraq, then Petraeus now owns his spot with them.
What did Admiral Fallon call him? A "kiss-ass little chickenshit"? And no, the MoveOn ad was not over the top. Not unless you're into censorship for political reasons.
Posted by: Jason Call | Sep 27, 2007 3:57:29 PM
Please, the person who posted above by the name of "I vote too" - I am dying to ask someone with your opinion what they thought was offensive regarding the ad?
Would you please write what your interpretation is and how you thought it was offensive?
thank you in advance
Posted by: mary ellen | Sep 27, 2007 9:10:20 PM
Hey, I vote too, did you not see this at the end of the title line of the Move On ad, "?"? That title was a question NOT a statement, but if thats how YOU want to see it SO WHAT? Bu$h crossed the line by using the General to parrot his failed Iraq policy leaving him open to that level of criticism. One other inconvenient fact, the facts as outlined in the ad were completely true, so we get usual "ignore the fact's and attack the messenger" hypocrisy of the Republics once again.BTW, where was the outrage when Mr Kerry was being smeared by the Swift Boat liars, with nothing but made up phony facts later proved to be nothing but lies?
Posted by: VP | Sep 28, 2007 7:28:44 AM
I wish Tom Udall would speak out as forcefully about the occupation as he did about the Move On ad. We hardly ever see or hear any strong statements from him but he made sure to speak out and vote for the ridiculous Republican crap that was the House bill crticizing Move On. He was in the newspaper today making more terrible statements. Go back in your hole Tom.
What is wrong with these people? The people want an end to the occupation and the billions going for nothing and instead our members of Congess are outraged about a perfectly legitimate ad? I don't care if they like or don't like it but groups have a perfect right to be as critical as they want to be about a war built on lies, carried out with lies and spun by generals like Powell (remember his UN performance?) and Petraeus.
One reason we're stuck in this quagmire is because so many politicians kissed Powell's ass and believed him even though what he said at the UN had already been shown to be incorrect. This is what giving so much respect to those who don't deserve it brings us. But did they learn from that mistake? No, now we're supposed to believe that Petraeus is beyond criticism and speaking pure truth. Sorry he BETRAYED US!
Posted by: Troops Home Now | Sep 28, 2007 9:16:01 AM